1.641c-d (tr. Thomas L. Pangle):
Kl. You seem to us to be saying, friend, that spending time drinking together is a great contribution to education, if it is done correctly!
Ath. Why not?
Kl. Well, could you explain next how what's just been said is true?
Ath. Stranger, to be sure of the truth in these matters, when so
many disagree, would belong to a god.
δοκεῖς ἡμῖν, ὦ φίλε, τὴν ἐν τοῖς οἴνοις κοινὴν διατριβὴν ὡς εἰς παιδείας μεγάλην μοῖραν τείνουσαν λέγειν, ἂν ὀρθῶς γίγνηται.
ἔχοις ἂν οὖν τὸ μετὰ τοῦτ᾽ εἰπεῖν ὡς ἔστιν τὸ νῦν εἰρημένον ἀληθές;
τὸ μὲν ἀληθές, ὦ ξένε, διισχυρίζεσθαι ταῦτα οὕτως ἔχειν, πολλῶν ἀμφισβητούντων, θεοῦ...